DeskScapes for XP

Monday, November 10, 2008 by Frogboy | Discussion: OS Customization

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Object Desktop 2009, which is due out on November 19, will be including some pretty cool stuff.  For Vista users, they finally get BootSkin.  For XP users, they get animated wallpaper with DeskScapes.

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srdjannj
Reply #21 Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:47 PM
November 19th is my birthday. Nicest gift
JymmyS
Reply #22 Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:05 PM
I use XP Pro at home and Vista Ultimate on my laptop, so I'm gonna make out like a bandit on this one! I'm so glad this if finally happening. Now my XP can be as cool as my Vista, and my Vista can be even cooler! Yea, WinCustomize!
angus1949
Reply #23 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:13 AM
OK, so it's 9:00 EST on the 19th already. I want my DeskScapes XP or I'll hold my breath until I turn blue. It's OK I'm not spoiled though.    
Philly0381
Reply #24 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:25 AM

   

angus1949
Reply #25 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:35 AM
OK now, it's 11:32 AM EST, again on the 19th. I'm gettin a real nice shade of pale blue about now. If DeskScapes isn't released soon I may pass out. I'll try to let you know when I hit bright purple. Come on guys, the life you save may be mine.  
peejay00
Reply #26 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:06 PM
No support for AGP cards until December (maybe). Fanbloodytastic
angus1949
Reply #27 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:52 PM

What?!!!  When did this revelation come about?  If this is the case then I might as well give up for a couple of years until I can build an updated system.

Neil Banfield
Reply #28 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:56 PM

Actually it is a case of it is a bad idea to use it on ATI AGP cards until December.  Nvidia AGP systems should work ok, though the cpu may be a little higher than a PCIE system (PCIE is simply a better bus design than AGP)

Once the new ATI drivers are released, AGP 8x machines should be ok with ATI cards.  Based on testing AGP 4x is simply not up to the job which I guess is why AGP 8x and PCIE x16 were invented.

There may be a few PCIE systems from ATI which experience unusually high cpu usage but again the December drivers should resolve this as well.  This high cpu usage will show up in particular with ObjectDock running, though some tooltips may also cause slowness.

If you do experience high cpu usage before then with ATI systems then ensure you have not forced antialiasing in the driver settings.  Once the December drivers are out all should be fine with this as well.

Nimbin
Reply #29 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:13 PM

Actually it is a case of it is a bad idea to use it on ATI AGP cards until December. Nvidia AGP systems should work ok, though the cpu may be a little higher than a PCIE system (PCIE is simply a better bus design than AGP)

 

considering that over 70% of XP systems use AGP video cards this is quite a glaring oversight

ZubaZ
Reply #30 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:22 PM

considering that over 70% of XP systems use AGP video cards this is quite a glaring oversight
Considering that its a card/driver issues and that MS said that Dreams were vista only I'd say it's quite an accomplishment. 

Nimbin
Reply #31 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:35 PM

Considering that its a card/driver issues and that MS said that Dreams were vista only I'd say it's quite an accomplishment

 

lol considering that stardock said that deskscapes was going to be XP compatible, wouldn't they have realized this problem?

Nimbin
Reply #32 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:39 PM

the fact that deskscapes wont work on AGP yet doesn't bother me as i don't intend on using it anyway, and i know that dreams were originally only for vista, but it producing an XP version it is always worthwhile to consider what hardware those XP users are most likely to be using and work accordingly. It's nice that eventually they will work on AGP 8x but this should have been detailed right from the start. How many people have gone and downloaded/installed the program on XP only to find that it wont run or is making their computers unusable. I am just saying that clearer information right from the beginning would have been nice so people wouldn't get their hopes up and make rash desicions that they may regret

Neil Banfield
Reply #33 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:51 PM

You must remember that Deskscapes requires a DirectX9 graphics card of which pretty much all of them are AGP 8x or PCIE.

Once the December ATI drivers are released the only people without support are people with AGP 1x, 2x, 4x motherboards.

peejay00
Reply #34 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:07 PM

What annoys me is that at no time before today have I seen SD announce that deskcapes 2.5 would probably not work on its release date for 70% of its subscribers, especially when the forums have been full of people with their tongues hanging out waiting for the release. I must admit that I feel misled.

Maybe in december if and when the drivers are released it may run fine on 8x AGP, but I fear that that the demands on the cpu/graphics card probably wont make running deskcapes full time a viable option. (or perhaps I am being over sceptical (don't know why that should be)).

Neil Banfield
Reply #35 Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:24 PM

Where did this 70% come from?  It is unlikely that 70% of our XP customers have ATI AGP graphics cards.

In an ideal world the ATI drivers would have been out by now, but we have to fit in with their release schedule.  We could either hold back the release until the drivers come out next month and so prevent any customers from using it even the nvidia users and PCIE users, or release it now knowing the updated drivers will be coming in December.

As for cpu usage, dynamic dreams run with their usual low cpu usage levels and video dreams depend on the video in question as on Vista. 

peejay00
Reply #36 Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:52 AM

It stands to reason that most xp users will be using older machines which will likely have older type cards, although I admit I do not know the percentages any more than you do.

Whilst I take your point about holding the release up, my complaint is that SD did not inform in advance the people getting excited by the news of the release, creating disappointment to many.

Thank you for your reassurance that once the AGP drivers are available that it should run with low cpu usage.

WebGizmos
Reply #37 Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:00 PM
Can anyone tell me if this card will be supported? NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS/AGP/SSE2 (256 MB)
HG_Eliminator
Reply #38 Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:17 PM

 

 

Deskscapes 2.5 (with XP support published at 1pm)

  • With a Dream file applied dragging and dropping icons from the desktop to a folder does not work at this time.
  • Please visit this web site to review video card requirement details.  In short, AGP Video cards are not supported at this time.  Future driver updates from NVIDIA/ATI will add support later this year.  At that time only AGP 8x will be supported (4x/2x/1x bus speeds are not adequate to support dream functionality at low CPU).
  • The Watercolor Dream may exhibit some distortion on Windows XP.

Whilst I take your point about holding the release up, my complaint is that SD did not inform in advance the people getting excited by the news of the release, creating disappointment to many.

 

The above statement is from the official support thread. I read it before downloading.

peejay00
Reply #39 Friday, November 21, 2008 4:28 AM
The official support thread was not posted until 18 November, 1 day brfore release. I am not aware of any information about AGP cards being released before this date. If you read it before downloading and found you had an AGP card, would you not have felt aggrieved?
PuterDudeJim
Reply #40 Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:53 PM
What codecs do I need? Where do I get them?

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