Windows RG
Average Rating: 5
Yours: -1
File Size: .88MB
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Windows RG

Updated Mar 20, 2006 by eyeJ

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Comment #1 Monday, March 20, 2006 4:16 PM
I have not rated it, as I have not downloaded it (yet) but allow me to help clarify something for you.
If you upload a non-finished skin you are already at a disadvantage in the already less than desirable "ratings game" here.
There is currently no section for Works in Progress so it is generally taken that this section is for completed skins only.

There are a few bugs but they are caused by some mistakes in WB5

Not sure what you mean by that. WB5 is not broken. There are many skins that function just perfectly with it, so unless you can specify what exactly the mistakes are in WB5 then one can only come to the conclusion that your skin is what is broken and not the software.
Not skinning toolbar Icons is not a crime at all, however jagged and unfinished items such as the toolbar buttons is punishable by nothing less that a ratings drop or a tongue lashing .

Based on the screenshot, it looks pretty smooth and colorful, but I can't help but feel that many of the images are only slightly tweaked original luna images.

Keep plugging at it though....
Comment #2 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:05 AM
good lord man. switch to decaf's a matter of life and're going to stroke out. settle down and take the good comments with the bad. you don't need to explain yourself with 3 different comment boxes everytime someone says something negative. you're not going to talk people into liking this skin. you're missing the point of skinning altogether. you're trying to determine what people like and don't like so you can make something that is widely accepted by the general public, i'm assuming for popularity reasons. the point of skinning is to make something that YOU like and share it with the world, if they don't like it, too's not their vision it's yours. you're awefully excited over negative comments for this being a beta...if this were a "beta" then negative comments is what you should be rant about the rating over a "beta" is foolish. you essentially called every user an idiot with your very first comment. not a good idea.

you're all over the map...spend less time defending yourself in the comments forum and more time fixing what people are telling you. people are telling you they don't like the buttons, if you're trying to make a popular skin then go fix them. honestly, the fact that the button glyphs are off-center makes them look odd. by desputing everyone on everything negative they say, you are calling them idiots as well.

if beta testers is what you're looking for then you need to be EXTREMELY specific on what type of feedback you want. when you make it open season then it will be. if you want feedback on only "useability" or "design" you need to say so.
Comment #3 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:07 AM
Tis unfortunate that people rate things based on the screenshots around here.
There aren't any issues with wb5 that warrant using it as an excuse for an incomplete skin. So what if menus bars aren't skinned. You could never do very much with it anyways. I just don't see your point. Especially with this skin. Anything else would have looked like crap.
Did you really expect a high rating for another luna remake? incomplete?
Heres how it breaks down..

No icons and animations-deduct 1 star-
Lack of originality- deduct 1 star
needs some fine tuning and misc images replaced- deduct 1 star.

I didn't rate it, just showing how one person might see the skin.

When someonme says... you missed quite a bit... I think they mean you missed quite a bit.
Someone making 4 and 5 star skins should know what is missing.
We always think our work is better than the general public does.
Comment #4 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:27 AM
the quality of this skin compared to the "others" that you submitted makes me go hmmm...did you forget how to skin..
Comment #5 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:57 AM
Lol I was out for quite some time.
Now I am confused
If only u can start a poll on personal sites
I'd like to do one where people rate this skin.
Now I am really confused
I don’t know if I know how to skin anymore.
But people... be specific say what element bothers you I can improve the skin just by hearing you complain about the whole thing. Maybe u need to ask your self is this skin what I generally like or I like some other style? I like colorful skins. I don’t like to much black outlines... If it is just not your style .... well some people like a BMW some like Mercedes. Get what I mean?? For example i think that the thing that bothers you is the fact that everything has so much color and that it is a mix of different styles. That is what it was ment to be. It is not an silver-blue skin.
In general there are some things that I need to fix and that is what I think from the very beginning but that is also why I uploaded this skin here. It has so much different things mixed. I can’t find out on my own what to change.

In general all my skins are made for the people that like that kind off style.

I really don’t understand what is bothering you guys some people just look at it and say that is nice. I guess that u like different style like my iGlass series or such.
Comment #6 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:28 AM
But people... be specific say what element bothers you

I think we have been more than helpful pointing out specifics. You however have not been very receptive nor polite about those specific issues being pointed out to you. I for one am finished pointing out things to you and leave you (and your incomplete work) to its own demise. Have a fantastic day.
Comment #7 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:30 AM
aleluja someone got it
that is what i whas trying to say all the time
i did it for my self and i am using it ... some time i will do one again.
The next one will be iGlass again i thing... this was just an experiment.
I was preparing to do this experiment a long time ago!
Finaly someone gets it!!!

thank you!! It's been a wierd day yesterday and i whas all wierd. I am still wierd.
Hope to be myself soon
Comment #8 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:52 AM
here i am writin a comment again haahahahahahhahaha
The glyphs are offset to make buttons look more 3d like.

Actualy this is verry funy because u dont hate a skin just because some glyphs are offset 2px top left.
Or do you?? They are wired. ???? ???? ok realy they are but i say i will fix them this sunday.
Comment #9 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:23 AM
okay now you're simply pissing people off...including me. you asked for opinions and that is what you got. shut up and take them for what they are or don't take them at all. if you can't hack the comments or the rating then don't submit anything. you are in no position to question ANYONE'S likes or dislikes as they pertain to this skin or any other....yes people DO hate skins for simple reasons like that and they will feel MORE than free to tell you about it. if you can't understand that basic fact then you have no business being a designer. obviously you lack a simple understanding of human nature and can't fathom that people may not like this skin...i've got news for you, it's not that good...NO MATTER HOW YOU CHANGE IT...shut up and take the comments or don't take them at all. DON'T EVER CALL PEOPLE INTO QUESTION OVER THEIR LIKES AND DISLIKES.
Comment #10 Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:14 AM
why did it pass moderation, you ask. well, it could be that wb skins are approved if they are not blatant rips of other skins. describing it as a beta tells me that you know it isn't complete but uploaded it anyway. like somebody else said, this isn't the place for betas. post them at deviantart as betas if you must. and two 17 year old kids (you and your beta tester) telling everyone else that we don't know anything is pretty stupid. i'm not a skinner but i guarantee i know more about sks than either of you 17 year old kids do. i haven't downloaded the skin and i defintely won't be doing it after reading your comments. and by the way, it does look like a remake of luna. now, take the criticism you've gotten in here to heart and try to finish the skin. maybe that and an attitude adjustment would get more downloads. also, if the "RG" does in fact mean "Real Good", judging by what is seen in the preview shot, you've missed.
Comment #11 Monday, March 20, 2006 3:47 PM
First skin that I have downloaded in a bit, and that is because I like it. It's a nice skin! Would be great if you worked it into a suite over time. Perhaps some matching widgets... Great job and keep it up!

Comment #12 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:57 PM
ok everyone u will get new titllebar buttons this sunday
or so
currently no time!! have a school project
Comment #13 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:51 PM
min/max buttons need work... they're jaggedy and also not very unique. You can even tell in the preview that the buttons are all weird. I do like the scrollbars though.
Comment #14 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:37 PM
Hello eyeJ!
U know who this is.
I gonna just say how I am dissapointed with a rating of this skin..
Guys you gotta know that this is not typical customized skin.
I use skins sice I heard (2,3 t 3 years) for this site so I thnk that my opinion matters.(sorry for my spelling)
Anyway that is likely a reason why eyeJ choose me for his beta tester.
He is aware of his bugs which are really hard to notice and at least half of them are not even caused by his poor knowlege of SkinStudio(which is better than knowledge of most skinners).
Many skinners dont bodher whith fixing these problems.
And yes a agree with kin242(prewiew). For example do you know that the rght click menu is actually semi tranparent!?
How many skinz can brag with that feature?!
I use this skin realy long now and I've got to say it is wery usable. This is the feature of original windows xp skin that may look like shit or boring but it easy to find your way around in windows. RG has that quality AND i looks good. (love glass buttons)
One more thing. how many you guys when using this skin had to look closer to read some letters or aim better whith cursor?
Many skinz have great rating just cause they look good in prewiew and when you download them you realize that it is totally diffrent expirience...
.....Which is in most cases bad (expirience).
And by the way... RG stands for "Realy Good"

Comment #15 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:29 PM
And thank you everyone!!
Comment #16 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:29 PM
Ip if i get how to make 3d icons... render in maya for compositing or find some one willing to share info on what does he use to make 3d icons
In the mean while use some Mormegil icons
he has done it!! he makes the best vector icons!! mormegil!!!
Comment #17 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:25 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee thank you!!!!! (tears off hapyness)
I didnt make translucent window titllebars because then the menubar is not skined!
As soon as stardock fixes the problem i will make nice round titllebar.

Thank you again!
Comment #18 Monday, March 20, 2006 2:16 PM
What, No toolbar icons??....Just kidding....Like sparklplenty I dont reply much, but I too like this skin. Nice colours and buttons. Can't wait for the final results. Any IP in the furure for this skin?
Great work.

Comment #19 Monday, March 20, 2006 1:19 PM
Max min etc buttons are misaligned and need work.
Some transparency would be nice.
All programs is misaligned when you use larger fonts.

My main suggestion though would be to do a proper preview image. The skin looks a hell of a lot better in reality than it does on there. Its a very smooth skin and has some lovely detail work- but yes it is still beta and needs polishing. It should not really be released in the main section yet imho.
Comment #20 Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:46 AM
okay now you're simply pissing people off...including me.

That's probably the cue to simply move on and ignore this skin....

There's no 'harm' in uploading incomplete skins, particularly in WB, except you will often attract 'complaint' from the purists who want to see 'it all done'.

That's really just's not as though the world will end simply because you download a skin that isn't 'all there'.  Simply comment the situation....and move on.  There's thousands of alternatives.

eyeJ always 'pays' to heed offered advice relating to possible improvements.  Many of the people here are skinners of long experience...and ALL our 'educations' are never ending....

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