Not Happy With Acronis
... it seems to be money grabbing, imo
Friday, November 23, 2012 by starkers | Discussion: Personal Computing
Yeah, I'm pretty pissed with Acronis. 2012 isn't even over and Acronis True Image 2012 is obsolete if you run Windows 8. It won't install on Win 8 and this page suggests it will never be updated to do so. It's pissing me off enormously because I only purchased it 4 - 5 months ago and I've not even gotten 6 months use out of it.
Now it wouldn't be so bad if there were plans to update it, or if it were 10 years old or something, but the year for which it was published isn't even over... and it is already obsolete for 1000's of Windows 8 users? Moreover, a number of people who added Win 8 compatibility to the Acronis 2012 wishlist were totally ignored, so I'm thinking Acronis has an attitude problem and will likely disappear from the list of backup programs as I search for a replacement to safeguard my system. Active Disk Image and Macrium look like 2 possible candidates.
Oh yeah, and another reason I'm looking to switch, Acronis bundles what should be standard features [by today's standards] into a 'Plus Pack' and charges extra for them. Various forum members drew attenton to this and noted that other developers had made them all inclusive, but it seems Acronis intends not to follow suit, and for me that is an incentive to look elsewhere.
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Reply #22 Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:08 AM
It's like magazines - they often have a date that is far ahead of the actual date, and often you can't get, say a November magazine when it is very far into November.
Reply #23 Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:38 AM
Mark, I think the world of ya mate, but you gotta lay off smoking that cabbage. The curry powder is making you imagine shit that just ain't so. 
Back to the OP. even if the upgrade is cheap, you'll be back in the same sinking boat with the next OS. ( Which some will be quick to adopt, I am sure and just as quick in complaining about incompatibilities) Why bother? Just move on and chalk it up to a lesson learned.
P.S. There are tens of thousands of Windows 7 machines still for sale. You didn't think they all got scrapped or sent back to have Whine8 installed didja?
You built yourself a fine rig with all the latest and greatest parts and have been in the forums telling all just how fast it is, and I'm happy for you but............benchmarks don't mean squat if your software won't run on it. 
Reply #25 Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:46 AM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
FTW! Brilliant! 
*Fuzzy now owes doc a screen, keyboard.
Reply #27 Saturday, November 24, 2012 12:07 PM
OK... here it is:
This is free, and is a bare metal recovery/restore program. 237 MB in an iso.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/redo-backup-and-recovery-104
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Reply #28 Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:12 PM
Quoting starkers, reply 19Windows 8 is all you can get when buying a new machine
I went to amazon.com, clicked on 'desktop computer' then clicked on the first computer in the 'best selling' category.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078RKT36/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_ir01?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-7&pf_rd_r=1ZGPGPS77KBJ5Y7W60WY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1281815122&pf_rd_i=565098
Operating system is listed under product features, end of the first line.
You lot must be behind over there in them states of tha USA... here in Oz, every major store is offering machines with Win 8 preinstalled, and nothing else.... like no Win 7 of any flavour. Checked in with a few smaller stores and the story's the same.... NO WIN 7. As for XP and Vista... well it's go whistle... has been for about 18 months or more.
Quoting starkers, reply 18True Image 2012 [the current edition]
Starkers....it's not 'current' and hasn't been for some time.....my icon says 'True Image 2013' .....it's date [for me] is ....1 October 2012....
Jafo, you may have TI 2013, but it is STILL 2012.... meaning my 2012 copy is current. Just because you bought your copy early, don't mean mine is out of date.
It won't be until 31.12.2012, if you want to get testic... er, technical.
So wot yer sayin', then, is that I can pick up December's Playboy [for the articles] now? 
Hehe, the last time I purchased a playboy was December 1980 or 81... I remember it well. A friend told me it had a hilarious take on the 12 days of Christmas song inside and that I should read it. Well I did... read it... well partly at least. Yeah, I was laughing so loud the newsagent said I was disturbing his customers and asked me to leave.... meaning I needed to purchase the damned mag if'n I wanted to finish the joke. So, I took it home and amongst the bevy of busty beauties was the uproarious '12 Days Of Christmas'... and I don't think I've laughed so hard since.
However, I yet again digress....
Reply #30 Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:17 PM
Another free option that works with 8: http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
Reply #31 Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:55 PM
No, we are just not being force fed the products we choose to buy. Yet.
Gee, I wonder what major software company may have had a hand in that marketing strategy?
Reply #32 Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:36 PM
I don't freakin' smoke tha stuff... clogs up the lungs worse than tobacco, which I no longer smoke... nearly 3 years now. However, I do occasionally smoke after intercourse...
.... which according to IROKONESS, means I'm doing it too fast.
I'm not too sure I'll go with even a cheap upgrade at this point. I'm playing around with Win 8's backup utility at the moment and have found it to do the job as required. It doesn't have all the flowery extras found in Acronis, some of which I found useful, but I'm thinking it does the basic job of backing up well enough to not part with any more cash. I still have 4 days to decide with the Acronis 19.99 offer. Thing is, I'm tight as a fishes arse when it comes to money, so we'll see.
[quote who="Wizard1956" reply="23" id="3283517"]P.S. There are tens of thousands of Windows 7 machines still for sale. You didn't think they all got scrapped or sent back to have Whine8 installed didja?
Um, not here! As stated earlier, the major stores here in Oz are offering only Win 8 machines now. A neighbour told me she recently went to Harvey Norman [one of those major stores] to buy a Win 7 machine but was told she could ONLY purchase a Win 8 machine AND a Win 7 installation disc to self-install if that's what she wanted. She got a similar story at OfficeWorks, so took my advice and went to my regular PC guy to get a custom built Win 7 rig there. It's sad but true, when new PC tech hits the shelves here in Oz, the old [if you can call it that] disappears pretty quickly.... and most large retailers won't order it in for you. Some of the smaller independents may keep/carry some of the older stuff, but the trouble with that is hunting around for what you need, especially when a lot aren't online [believe it or not] and are often too busy to talk on the phone.
I wouldn't have seen that, being a current subscriber... but I may have gone ballistic, had I seen it.
Reply #34 Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:55 PM
http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/files/redobackup-livecd-1.0.4.iso/download?use_mirror=iweb[/quote]
Thanks Doc, I'm downloading it now and will take a look later... 'tis 5.45am, haven't been to bed yet and need to get some shuteye. 
Thanks Frankief, I've also downloaded this one and will check it out later.
Hmmm, let me guess... wouldn't be that Microsuff wot Uvah keeps talking about, would it?
Probably, and because we never went into recession and the economy is strong, Microstuff figures we're up for that marketing strategy.
Bastards!!!! First they make a new OS that's compatible with eff all, and now they're pulling all the good shit off the shelves.... BASTARDS!!!!!
Reply #35 Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:55 PM
http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/files/redobackup-livecd-1.0.4.iso/download?use_mirror=iweb[/quote]
Thanks Doc, I'm downloading it now and will take a look later... 'tis 5.45am, haven't been to bed yet and need to get some shuteye.
Thanks Frankief, I've also downloaded this one and will check it out later.
Hmmm, let me guess... wouldn't be that Microsuff wot Uvah keeps talking about, would it?
Probably, and because we never went into recession and the economy is strong, Microstuff figures we're up for that marketing strategy.
Bastards!!!! First they make a new OS that's compatible with eff all, and now they're pulling all the good shit off the shelves.... BASTARDS!!!!!
Reply #36 Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:02 PM
Oh, and if anybody's wondering why it has taken me so long to respond here, Shaunna is sick and I've been up and down to her all night, so yeah, some time elapsed between posts. I think it's one of those 24 hour bugs because she has been feeling a little better over the last hour or so. Well here's hoping that's all it is.
Anyway, she's sleeping comfortably now and that's what I'll be doing shortly... need to finish my cuppa [tea] first.
Reply #37 Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:05 PM
Please give her my best wishes for a speedy recovery, Mark. 
[no pun intended].
Reply #38 Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:58 PM
Give Shaunna my best Mark. Hope she feels better.
Reply #39 Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:12 PM
I prefer the term "fiscally sensible" 
I figured that was a big piece of the frustration, just wasn't going to say it, I'm the same way. That and I think we've talked about how annoying it is to buy stuff to literally just flush down the toilet. 
Nope, not a big fan of o/s upgrades.
Hope the sick one feels better soon.
Reply #40 Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:42 PM
A quick Google...
"The official release date for True Image 2013 by Acronis is August 27, 2012 (for English..."
Having a '12' in the name in a year with '12' doesn't make something 'current'.
Another quick google...
"The official release date for Acronis True Image Home 2012 is August 23, 2011."
Get well soon, Shaunna...
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Reply #21 Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:03 AM
Starkers....it's not 'current' and hasn't been for some time.....my icon says 'True Image 2013' .....it's date [for me] is ....1 October 2012....